Look back on how this debate started, people are comparing his action as raping/robbing, which do you agree. Again seen like many who disagree with his action think that nothing wrong with Snowden action. I am just try to state that there seen to be double standard here, and clearly indicate that they are not objective when they view similar case.
I respect your view on this as this is the principles democratic. However please do respect the view on other. And by the way, I do respect their point even they had show that they practice double standard, what I did is to point it out only.
Snowden is in US when he break US law, I see no different here. So your view point is when one is in Hong Kong, he must follow Hong Kong law, and when one is overseas (including US), it is fine not to follow their law? As your statement give me this impression
The case of Snowden is up to open debate, US had request an extradition already and as Hong Kong had sign the agreement, they are suppose to extradite him back as per International or to provide a detail reason not to (which Hong Kong had not provide till date). So your view is that if someone commit a crime in Hong Kong and manage to escape overseas, when Hong Kong ask for extradition from that country (assume they have the agreement with Hong Kong), there is nothing wrong for them to refuse and not to provide any reason as the guy did not break their law. Sound weird to me on this. I am not saying that Hong Kong should extradition him but if Hong Kong refuse to extradition him (which is the right of Hong Kong government), then they should provide the detail reason on why Hong Kong refuse as per the agreement.
Ok, since you refuse to check up, let me enlighten you. The reason Hong Kong provide for the refuse is that documents provided by US are incompleted (you can easily check this out), however Hong Kong did not even mention what documents are missing till date and US had claim that all documents are send to Hong Kong and question what is the documents that was not provided to them, As I mention Hong Kong have a right to refuse to extradition. But over here, it can be easily seen that there are double standard on practice
Ok, since you refuse to check up, let me enlighten you. The reason Hong Kong ...
You have inability to search correct information. You have already mentioned the reasons provided by HK government. However, US government had already confirmed that the request from HK were sent. They just ignored the law in HK.
The standard followed by HK government is very clear here. They need to follow HK LAW. The double standard here that I can see and tell you is Li X Ming. Is he a HK lawyer? If so, why does he not follow HK law to judge this case?
I think you really need to check on your fact, it is the extradition law that Hong Kong sign with US, so if Snowden break a US law then it don't bother if he break Hong Kong law or not. As I mention before, if one person break Hong Kong law and run to let say country X. And when Hong Kong ask for extradition, then country X can refuse the request by stating that "He did not break country X law".
Let me put it in layman term and create an example which never happen before. Legal age of sex in Hong Kong in 16. whereas some countries is 18 or some at 13. So if someone have sex with a 17 years old in a country that is illegal, then come over to Hong Kong, then you point of argument is that Hong Kong can refuse extradition because he did not break Hong Kong Law as Hong Kong legal age is 16. So likewise if someone have sex with a minor 15 years old and escape to a country that allow sex at 13. Then they can refuse base on the same reason.
I think you really need to brush up your understand on extradition agreement. That is why the reason Hong Kong given is that the US did not provided completed documents for the request (which till date, Hong Kong still cannot say what did US miss out).
I think you really need to check on your fact, it is the extradition law that ...
Unfortunately, you still have not checked. HK gov’t had at least disclosed two queries that requiring US side to clarify before they could proceed to apply for court order. Such request had been sent 5 days prior to Snowden leaving HK. US side did not react. They just accused HK after finding Snowden had left HK. US side had also challenged HK side that the passport of Snowden was not valid on the day when he left HK. However, the document of invalidation only been sent to HK few days after Snowden’s departure. US gov’t did not comment on these faults.
The above mentioned content were publicly propagated and were not disagreed by US gov’t. The US government only disagreed with HK counterpart and insisted that HK gov’t could arrest a person based on a photo but not a court order!
The above is not a critical issue. The issue is the reaction of Li X Ming, a HK famous lawyer.
You never comment on whether a court order is necessary to arrest Snowden. Are you practicing the same double standard as illustrated by Li X Ming?
Since you mention what is the two queries? The US had already dispute on this and Hong Kong had not mention what is the two queries. And sorry, you are talking about Hong Kong court order, that had nothing to do extradition law as I had mention, if base on what you say then International extradition law will never work when one party refuse the court order. As I bring up the example, someone commit the crime in Hong Kong, run to overseas and when request extradition, the other countries claim that they have no court order and refuse it, do this make sense to you. I had already mention, go and read up extradition law before you want to go further on this.
In extradition law, as long as US issue a warrant order and that is valid for a arrest. It is the same when Hong Kong issue a warrant order, the country that sign an extradition with Hong Kong is suppose to extradite the criminal to Hong Kong. So where is the double standard here.
Whereas at one point, there are people who support criminal and the other hand, they condemn criminal, that is double standard.
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發表於 2013-7-10 10:49:46
