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本帖最後由 沈陽海哥 於 2016-6-15 23:16 編輯

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Google's Business Reason for Leaving China  (From The Wall Street Journal)

Google's high-profile departure from China's search-engine market has burnished the company's reputation for ethics. The company has won plaudits from various quarters for sacrificing its business interests on the altar of free speech.

But is the decision really so altruistic? Few doubt Google's commitment to free speech, which is particularly important to co-CEO Sergey Brin, who was born in the Soviet Union. But when considering whether other companies should follow Google out of China, it's worth noting that Google's withdrawal from China's search market makes good business sense.

The reason is simple: Google's business model requires that its consumers trust that their information will be absolutely secure. So when Google says it will "do no evil" and will never compromise on its principles or its technologies, the world must believe it.

Recent events underline the sensitivity of data security. The same week that Google rerouted its China search traffic to Hong Kong servers, the Yahoo email accounts of several China-based foreign journalists were hacked. Yale University in the U.S. is reconsidering its decision to use Google's email service campus-wide after faculty members questioned whether data would be secure. And University of Toronto researchers this week announced their discovery of yet another cyber-espionage ring operating out of China.

In January, Google gave two reasons for reassessing its China operations.

1)  The company's dismay with the Chinese government's ceaseless efforts to limit free speech on the web.
2)  A sophisticated hack attack launched from China in December that targeted Google's secure servers in the U.S.

The hackers, Google said, had penetrated far enough into the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists that they could read email subject lines. Significantly, the hack also "resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google." That property is believed to be a chunk of Google's highly confidential source code.

Google redirecting search users to its Hong Kong servers because of censorship is easy to understand. After much soul searching, Google did agree to censor its search results when it launched its Chinese search engine in 2006, and was later distressed to find that Beijing's commitment to censoring the web grew stronger over time, not weaker. But what did the hack have to do with exiting China? If the attack had come from New York City, would Google have closed down its service in Manhattan?

To find the answer, remember that the Google products we see today, such as the company's colorful but clean search page and its pinpointed maps, may soon comprise just a small part of Google's suite of products. Google's long-term plan is to compete not just with other Web publishers and search engines, but with technology companies like Microsoft and Apple.

In particular, Google wants to dominate the cloud—the suite of servers and applications that will store much of the information that businesses and individuals today retain on their own hard drives. Instead of using Word and Excel and Outlook, users may choose similar Google applications, such as Google Docs, that will store data online and make it accessible from any computer or wireless device. When used on wireless handsets, those applications may run on Google's open operating system, Android, which will of course make Google's products easy to use. In short, Google wants to be the guardian of your private information.

That's where China presents a problem. Google compromised its principles when it censored its Chinese search engine, which was damaging enough to its reputation. If Google had stayed in China and was seen as setting up research and development centers, training engineers, possibly even training the types of people who would someday hack out chunks of Google's code, then users could fairly wonder whether Google might compromise their data for a buck. As one former Google employee in China told us, "If what Google does in China makes its data seem unsafe, then Google's global strategy is gone."

So Google had much at stake in the world, but, it turns out, not much at stake in China. Google earned roughly $300 million a year in China, nearly all of it from advertising. Yet one-third of that sum came from Chinese companies using Google to place ads outside of China, and Chinese companies will presumably continue using this Google service. So Google stands to lose around $200 million. That's less than 1% of the company's global income—a rounding error.

Of course, Google forgoes more than just online advertising revenue. China's second-biggest telecommunications carrier, China Unicom, just dropped Google's search product from its newest smartphones. But such opportunity costs can be considered small compared to the downside risk of maintaining operations in China.

It's likely that Google's top executives, especially Mr. Brin, were already reconsidering their commitment to China when the hack came in December. The intrusion tipped the balance, and also provided a nice public-relations hook (Google has since said that the hackers had not targeted the email accounts of Chinese human rights activists).

The lessons to be learned from Google's exit are not necessarily transferable to other foreign companies operating in China. Many of these companies have also compromised long-stated principles. They may choose to follow Google and leave. But they should do so knowing that Google's principled stand did not imperil its future bottom line.



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巨大狗大 發表於 2016-6-15 23:11
北韓和「其他國家」仍不能上 google。
如果 google 可以正常入大陸,百度立即玩完。

好難了,除非中共倒台!
你對囡囡好,囡囡會對你更好!
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本帖最後由 沈陽海哥 於 2016-6-15 23:33 編輯

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Google quits censoring search in China   (BY CNN  / March 23, 2010  -  Monday )


Google on Monday announced it has stopped censoring search results in China.

The announcement came amid speculation that the search giant would pull out of China entirely and sets up a showdown with the Communist leadership there.

In a 3:03 p.m. ET post on its official blog, Google said it stopped running the censored Google.cn service on Monday and was routing its Chinese users to an uncensored version of Google based in Hong Kong.

"We want as many people in the world as possible to have access to our services, including users in mainland China, yet the Chinese government has been crystal clear throughout our discussions that self-censorship is a non-negotiable legal requirement," said Senior Vice President David Drummond, Google's chief legal officer, on the blog.

Google hopes the move "will meaningfully increase access to information for people in China," Drummond wrote.

"We very much hope that the Chinese government respects our decision, though we are well aware that it could at any time block access to our services," he added.

Google said it would be carefully monitoring to see if access to the site is blocked in mainland China.

Google-China move hurts businesses, academics
In January, Google announced that the company and at least 20 others were victims of a "highly sophisticated and targeted attack" originating in China in mid-December, evidently to gain access to the e-mail accounts of Chinese human rights activists.

The company said the attacker or attackers gained access to the header, or subject-line information,
from the e-mails of two human rights activists through the Google network.

As a result, the company said, it was no longer willing to abide by the filters that the Chinese government demanded on certain searches before allowing Google to operate in the country.

For a brief time afterward, Google.cn was retrieving results for sensitive topics including the 1989 crackdown at Tiananmen Square, the Dalai Lama and the banned Falun Gong spiritual movement. But about a day later, search results appeared to return to normal.

Advocates of Internet freedoms cheered Google's move Monday.
"It demonstrates that a company like Google, with the business stakes in a market as large as China, can make the decision that free and open Internet is a better business alternative and a better ethical choice for its users," said Katz of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which promotes free speech online.

Deibert, who co-founded the OpenNet Initiative, said China's next move may not be to just block access to Google but to go a step further: blocking all outside search engines from accessing Web information in China.

"If such a radical measure happens, that would have major implications for cyberspace as a whole," he said. "It would point to a more regionalized Internet" and perhaps embolden countries like Iran to follow suit, Diebert said.

Google.cn is the preferred search tool for about 13 percent of Chinese Web users, according to a state-sponsored survey. Baidu.com, a government-link company's Chinese search engine, dominates the market in mainland China with about 77 percent of users, the survey said.




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馬後砲 發表於 2016-6-15 13:51
又系Google自己高調要求退出中國市場,关人X事,
而家後悔.?

為扶值百度坐大,逼走google,,
中國沒臉書,沒臉沒皮,
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巨大狗大 發表於 2016-6-15 23:11
北韓和「其他國家」仍不能上 google。
如果 google 可以正常入大陸,百度立即玩完。

唔止百度玩完,大陸人醒覺不再信狗共,因為果度有狗共喪盡天良罪行影片資訊,佢無得抵賴
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沈陽海哥 發表於 2016-6-15 23:30
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Google quits censoring search in China   (BY CNN  / March 23, 2010  -  Monda ...

Ok, 一连两篇讲当年Google点解撤出中國,一篇来自WSJ, 另一篇CNN.
理由堂而皇之, 若真的是永不回頭,我衷心佩服。

可惜几年後今天,又再次向中國领導人低頭。
当年中國开出審查條件,而家全部应承。

我只觉得走的当日,佢只系忍唔住输俾百度嗰談啖氣而已
I can please only one person each day. Today I choose myself.
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anthonyantony 發表於 2016-6-15 17:15
北韓政權危危乎, 一變Google好快在北韓就解禁.
但內地仲見唔倒有任何改變的跡象, 要Google跪低先準入! 一是Google跪低, 唔是都好難見倒

已經跪左啦!早排試播试连線两小時
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谷村富郎 發表於 2016-6-15 21:16
扣头有鬼用啥,阿爺最唔中意(屎艾A)利用互联網搞和平演变,(谷鳩)就偏偏要做,所以扣頭俾阿爺都唔蘇佢, ...

其實微軟的Bing一直在大陸可以用,yahoo 亦然,
所以班友話大陸專制等等,都只系借题發揮的抹黑而已
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