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FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-8 15:15:03

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sniperzero 發表於 2012-2-8 02:08
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佢副con咁的??定係右邊打板?

Looks like ring light as main lighting !!

sniperzero · 發表於 2012-2-8 19:54:55

FunDragon 發表於 2012-2-8 15:15
Looks like right light as main lighting !!

主燈唔係環閃？

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-8 23:15:10

sniperzero 發表於 2012-2-8 19:54
主燈唔係環閃？

Beauty dish ??

sniperzero · 發表於 2012-2-8 23:27:39

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見個眼神光,唔知係ring flash定係beauty dish

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 00:37:32

sniperzero 發表於 2012-2-8 23:27
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見個眼神光,唔知係ring flash定係beauty dish

看清楚，一定是環形燈，但不一定是閃。

sniperzero · 發表於 2012-2-9 01:07:48

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希望fun龍兄可姒賜教關於ring flash,beauty dish,同大型柔光箱的分別同用法
因為有一個迷思係,如果ring flash唔係同相機""癡""埋一齊的話(當係飛燈),可唔可以當佢係beauty dish咁諗?

如果要光源面積大的,柔光箱同beauty dish不係都一樣??

laukwm · 發表於 2012-2-9 01:12:44

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佢副con咁的??定係右邊打板?

This one was not taken by me, just want to show some pretty girls here.

laukwm · 發表於 2012-2-9 01:14:06

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FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 14:23:41

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希望fun龍兄可姒賜教關於ring flash,beauty dish,同大型柔光箱的分別同用法

Good Question, this is probably one of the most asked questions when I travel around !!

let me share the little that I know about this subject here.

As you can probably tell, my Chinese writing is very limited company. I can only share this in English as that is much easier for me to express my opinion.

BUT if there is any one on this FORUM who like to take this and translate it into Chinese, you are most welcome to do it and post them here or other forums, so to benefit every one who have the interest in this subject.

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 14:25:01

FunDragon 發表於 2012-2-9 14:23
Good Question, this is probably one of the most asked questions when I travel around !!

let me sh ...

Discussion of the difference between the use of Ring Light, Beauty Dish and the Soft-box modifier should always start with the understanding that the discussion should not be about which is better than the other in all cases and all times.

It is only what is best for the given shot that you are doing. Also the decision is about what kind of look that you are striving for. And then what does it take to get that particular look, that is the question we should be asking ourselves.

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 14:34:58

FunDragon 發表於 2012-2-9 14:25
Discussion of the difference between the use of Ring Light, Beauty Dish and the Soft-box modifier ...

A Ring Light is probably the hardest light of the three.

Since it is mainly bare bulb, it can cast pronounce shadows depending on the placement of the subject and the background,
A lot of editors like that characteristic ribbon of shadow all around the subject although that slowly has kind of past as a fad by many others.

The other characteristic of a ring flash is that, since the Ring flash is usually used around the lens and on the same plane as the subject, it is a harder light but it will not cast any shadows because it is always behind the subject, no shadow means also minimum of blemishes will show.

And the other effect it has is that since the light is usually used very closed to the subject, the light fall off is very pronounce, as an example if you look closely on the arm of a model in a portrait or fashion shot done with a ring flash, the center of the arm is closest to the light and the two side will be further away from it, hence the center part will be lighter than the sides of the arm, and creating a rim type of shadow along the arm, which is a key way to identify whether the shot is product of a ring flash.

I always felt using the Ring Flash give my images a more crisp feel to them,

I really like RingFlashes for Fashion and Glamour shots when used together with other heads, it gave a really nice look to the subject as the light comes from a different axis relative to the lens, while it reveals fabric texture and color better than soft-boxes alone.

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 14:42:45

FunDragon 發表於 2012-2-9 14:34
A Ring Light is probably the hardest light of the three.

Since it is mainly bare bulb, it can cas ...

Beauty Dishes and Soft-Boxes have a completely different kind of effect than a Ring Flash,
Even when placed close to the camera plane. Soft-Boxes give you a relatively uniform light over its surface and you would use that to light someone in a predictable way, with soft even light.

A white beauty Dish does much the same except that it has a block in the middle, this block allows the photographer to avoid common hotspots around the forehead due to the light being too closed to subject. Beauty dishes also gives you the round catchlights in your subject’s eyes, which may be consider more preferable to square catch light for some photographers.

Another kind of Beauty dish that are used often are ones with a silver lining,
They provide a completely different effect than the white counterpart, in that they provide a relatively more snappy light, but still the shadow transitions are very pleasant because it is a large source in relation to the light and distance from subject. A silver Beauty Dish also have another surprise is that they can give you more tiny specula highlights on skin, making it to have a GLOW to it. And if used close enough, the block in the center give the subject’s face a more contoured look than a similar sized softbox at the same distance.

Beauty dishes are great indoors when space is at a minimum, if you ever try to use 3 medium or large Soft-boxes in a tiny hotel room, you will know what I mean. They also work great outdoors when softboxes or Umbrellas behave like Large Sails going with the wind.

The big advantage for the Beauty Dishes with it’s ability to add defectors and Grids is allowing you to control the light fall off on the edges of your subject, One can produce the main highlight on the skin, and have a controlled degree of fall off around the face, arms, body …etc. controlling the shadow and highlights

FunDragon · 發表於 2012-2-9 14:43:57

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FunDragon 發表於 2012-2-9 14:42
Beauty Dishes and Soft-Boxes have a completely different kind of effect than a Ring Flash,
Even w ...

In summary, in Beauty and Makeup work, I prefer the light I get from 2 beauty Dishes over the Softboxes, I find the light to have more punch and also like the ability to control where and how the light falls with a grid. In comparison I find the light from a softbox has a slightly more diffused feel to it, where it seems like it can lose slight sharpness and intensity from my perspective. But in many occasions when a more diffuse look is called for in some instance, when more romantic environment such as bridal and wedding related shoots is call for, the softboxes will do the job well.

Also as a general rule, perfect skin and perfect makeup is enhanced by the use of a Beauty Dish while most off the street “normal” adults without makeup are not flattered when light with a beauty dish, and a softbox or Umbrella is often a better choice, a larger softbox will produce a softer look that is good for older models where the skin irregularities need to be less emphasized, something to keep in mind for our general assignments.

Using the right tool for the right subject is one important part of Photography, in terms of Camera, lens choice as well as the use of lighting modifier being used.