應用軟件的嚴冬! 還有多久才見曙光啊! (歡迎入嚟吹吹水)

dswhkg

應用軟件(商用軟件)曾經有一段輝煌的時期, 80年代未至2000年初期, 香港工業北移, 製造業規模迅速擴大, 且香港本土亦迅速轉型為服務業中心, 百業興盛, 對商業軟件的須求亦同步擴大.

好境不常, 香港的工商業受到接連的打擊. 工業方面先是受到國內同業的堀起, 以平價競爭. 再遇到廣東省的「騰籠換鳥」計劃, 大批港企破趕走或結業. 留下來的,亦要面對不斷的成本上漲壓力(匯率,最低工資等)
而轉折點就是雷曼事件及其引至的金融海蕭! 美國佬似已收斂了其大花筒,亂花費的習慣, 2年多後, 出口美國的訂單仍然未能回愎. 看來這是長期的情勢了.

應用軟件的情況就更是淒涼! 心有憂慮的老闆是不會投放資源攪新系統的. 而這嚴冬就從08年一直維持至今了!
本來,在7月其間,是有過一段小陽春的. 主要是本地的零售批發及出入口貿易行業帶動, 但已經隨著全球的小股災而煙消雲散了....

唉,不知道這樣的日子仲有幾長?

各位師兄, 你那裡的情況又怎麼樣啊? 吹吹水,分享一下啦!

ykkenmendd

我是因為北京總公司施壓, 要統一用北京電腦部發展的系統, 所以被炒了, 相信日後有更多中上規模的公司會自己開組研發系統, 市面也有很多產品適合中小企使用, 可能computer science畢業的出路也許會更好

dswhkg

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"因為北京總公司施壓, 要統一用北京電腦部發展的系統"
This is a factor:
Companies tend to use the computer software system from the place of the mother company.
i.e. The boss from Beijing want all its branch companies use the Beijing system; similarly, HK company tend to use a HK system in their China factory.

So, if overall HK companies become weaker, the IT companies of HK will get less business...

Note: it took me quite a long time to type the above text... hope using Chinese can lead more discusion ...

ykkenmendd

dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 17:37
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"因為北京總公司施壓, 要統一用北京電腦部發展的系統"

呵呵  我的英文能力很低, 記得12岁來香港讀中學苦得難以想像, 現在也花了相當多的精神來看你的文字, 今趟我用翻譯軟件看
現在 IT companies 不容易找到buyer, 因為請個畢業生一萬左右就得,再配合市面現成products, 那畢業生又做埋硬件維修, 在中小企來說是化算的

ykkenmendd

煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 17:49
it 人用英文都好正常 .... 我睇唔明要查字典架喇 ....

我有個疑問 ... 依家潮流興用手機 apps . ...

apps我冇研究唔知, windows mobile application唔知算唔算apps, 我都有寫過mobile data collector的簽名程式, android及iphone就要交俾依家d年青人咯

ykkenmendd

煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:11
wm 果 d 都係 apps ... 如果 win 8 成功 ... 依會唔會再寫返呀 ?

應該唔會, 要睇機緣

ykkenmendd

煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:14
其實呢個都算係商機丫 ... 寫個 apps 應該比較簡單嘛 ... 我估架咋 ....

在我來說android/iphone係純玩的, 而且google會support android, 大陸很多免費iphone apps, 估計冇咩商機, wm就唔同起碼現在世貿接軌, 大多EDI都係用XML或MS

dswhkg

煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:14
其實呢個都算係商機丫 ... 寫個 apps 應該比較簡單嘛 ... 我估架咋 ....

app programming is sure a big chance !

I'm old, may not be able to learn and catch up with app.

But I think the challenge is: how to enrich the function of mobile computing....

dswhkg

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I mean not just a smaller screen and use touch-screen to replace mouse.....

it is how to write a nice & easy to use front end interface for mobile users, the back end may be a very powerful computer-farm. e.g. Facebook app

dswhkg

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tell you a secret: I just got a barely pass (grade E) in school cert English, and was failed in A-level Use-Of-English.... that made me out of the door of HKU

ykkenmendd

煩惱 發表於 2011-9-14 18:24
其實寫 apps 收入 ... 唔係來自賣 apps 架 ...

我真係冇研究,依家只係一個維修佬 你講講有咩收入,我好想知

dswhkg

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to pick up a new language and new programming environment is very difficult for me.... I'm already planning to retire...

dswhkg

ykkenmendd 發表於 2011-9-14 18:31
我真係冇研究,依家只係一個維修佬 你講講有咩收入,我好想知

selling the app itself is an income;
the other income may come from ad.

ykkenmendd

dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:27
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tell you a secret: I just got a barely pass (grade E) in school cert English ...

我也說我的secret, 我都係一样, 不過唔同係因為pure maths

ykkenmendd

dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:35
selling the app itself is an income;
the other income may come from ad.

就係咁我就冇咩興趣了

dswhkg

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for example, you write a dictionary program, from English to Chinese.
Not very difficult, the dictionary itself can be found from many open-source, you just need to write a nice interface.

Then put it to Apple AppStore, free of charge. And charge US$0.99 for no-ad version.
99.9% users won't pay, only 0.1% pay you.
Then how much you got?

It depend how many users like your program. If you have 10,000,000 users worldwide, 0.1% pay you, then you get US$9,900=HK$77,220... How you think?

dswhkg

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"就係咁我就冇咩興趣了"
why?

ykkenmendd

dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:42
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for example, you write a dictionary program, from English to Chinese.

0.1%的來源是什么組織

ykkenmendd

dswhkg 發表於 2011-9-14 18:47
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"就係咁我就冇咩興趣了"

因為我不缺錢, 你信嗎

dswhkg

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may be individual people, may be company.

Apple will collect the money for you, of course you have to pay Apple some % of commission.
Apple then will transfer you the net amount...