做 Programmer 入行應有的條件。

16791679 · 發表於 2012-6-12 00:29:14

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"As told the Indian language is the most difficult in the world. For someone born to learn such language, his brain is already halfway hooked up to learn our programing language. "

I knew that Indian has good programming skills in general.
But the language helps is an interesting information.

jayzhou_2046 · 發表於 2012-6-12 16:20:12

本帖最後由 jayzhou_2046 於 2012-6-12 16:47 編輯

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咁我喺九十年代去過India即係印度(長時間工作嗰隻), 又真係唔覺佢哋咁hooked up to learn programming language(s)噃! (我相當肯定唔係講緊印第安啦! 如果係, 即係講緊美州啫!)
可能佢哋廿年來進化咗我唔知啦! 又或者我見到既係喺椰省度啲人雞, 冇咁hook up. 上返北面啲既人進化得再快啲都唔定, hook up得勁啲啦!

註: 椰省喺南面.

再註: 某程度上印度係一個多國組成既國家. 一個省除咗用Hidi同英文之外, 仲會用當地既語言作為法定語言. 注意我唔係講方言, 而係講緊同Hidi完全九唔搭八既, 擁有另一套character sets既語言. 而提到既椰省就有用到"瑪雅也琳"為第三種法定語言. Hidi同"瑪雅也琳"對於我黎講同樣係the most difficult in the world. 故此, 用 As told the Indian languages are the most difficult in the world作為前提會恰當一啲.

按:可能三文三語令佢哋一再hooked up to learn programming language(s)啦!

就正如九十年代去內地, 又真係唔覺佢哋好似人哋話咁啪啪聲噃! Forward slash同backward slash都分唔清. 咁就累我做嘢嗰間公司唔見咗來回機票!

到廿一世紀仲X誇張, 為數不少既內地高手竟然將"網"字打成"綱"字...可能佢中文差, 冇hooked up to learn programming language(s)啦又! 求膠其將個html save 做 asp就話自己係asp高手! 咁佢可能只得一文兩語, 所以唔夠hook up啦!

按: 咁香港人成日話兩文三語, 咁理應好Q hook up先係架!

但直至我好好彩見到一個內地高人高人高高人... 佢喺航天度做事, 佢可以話天生hooked up to learn and do 火箭相關科技上任何既嘢! 佢一頭銀髮, 沉默寡言, 真係好似唔駛同佢講嘢都唔知點解好似學到啲嘢咁.

按: 如果佢左臂紋番隻麒麟, 再背住一把絕世好劍, 我可能會以為佢係步驚雲!

我好相信如果有啲hooked up去做某啲嘢(正當嗰啲)既高人, 一般人又點可能話咁易碰到呢? 就以內地為例, 編程科技呢類高手, 一早入鬼咗航天或者軍部, 想話喺佢哋身上學吓點為之hooked up to learn呢樣嗰樣真係難!

OT咁耐, 順便回應吓, 老嘢冇Q用: 正話提到嗰位航天步驚雲, 十年前佢已屆花甲之年.

馬後砲 · 發表於 2012-6-12 16:40:10

jayzhou_2046 發表於 2012-6-12 16:20
回應 16791679 #43 的帖子

咁我喺九十年代去過India即係印度(長時間工作嗰隻), 又真係唔覺佢哋咁hooked up ...

有與趣可以看看
Why I Will Never Feel Threatened by Cheap Overseas Programming
http://blog.jpl-consulting.com/2 ... ogrammers-in-india/

webwebweb · 發表於 2012-6-21 00:30:24

回復馬後砲 #45 的帖子

don't even join it. don't even join it. don't even join it. don't even join it.

馬後砲 · 發表於 2012-6-21 00:53:57

webwebweb 發表於 2012-6-21 00:30
回復馬後砲 #45 的帖子

don't even join it. don't even join it. don't even join it. don't even join ...

don't get your point.

myGoodies · 發表於 2012-6-24 23:44:16

要知道乜野係必學o既
好似我公司o的 programmer 死守 Windows CE
Google (Android) 死都唔肯學
連 Goggle Data Export API, Google Map API 等都唔 Q 願學
結果寫出o黎o的 program 越o黎越冇人用

馬後砲 · 發表於 2012-6-25 01:34:53

myGoodies 發表於 2012-6-24 23:44
要知道乜野係必學o既
好似我公司o的 programmer 死守 Windows CE
Google (Android) 死都唔肯學

resistance to change - 人之常情
但却是programmer大忌
hardware日新月異
連帶software亦不停出新版本。
唔主動去學新既language 同sdk.
好快就俾人out左

myGoodies · 發表於 2012-6-25 01:39:58

馬後砲發表於 2012-6-25 01:34
resistance to change - 人之常情
但却是programmer大忌
hardware日新月異

問題係人哋Google已經咁普及都唔學人哋啲API，冇法引用大部份網友常用的google服務，只會變成孤島。

馬後砲 · 發表於 2012-6-25 07:09:49

myGoodies 發表於 2012-6-25 01:39
問題係人哋Google已經咁普及都唔學人哋啲API，冇法引用大部份網友常用的google服務，只會變成孤島。 ...

embed Google Map 之類嗰的好易至播，的人咁都唔掂?

jayzhou_2046 · 發表於 2012-6-25 09:57:44

本帖最後由 jayzhou_2046 於 2012-6-25 09:59 編輯

回復 myGoodies #48 的帖子

有公司仲用緊FoxPro, Clipper, dBase 嗰類 xBase!
唔知佢哋有冇人肯學, 但肯定佢哋老細係戇x!
(呀! 我明喇! 因為佢戇x, 所以佢先用xBase !!!)
利益申報: 雖則十年, 即係2002年, 我都叫user用dBase 2k
代替Visual dBase5.5.

按: 我識Window CE (到4.x啫), 又識Android SDK, 仲識 iOS SDK,
連冇七用既WebOS SDK, bada SDK, Symbian....(下刪百九幾字)
乜九都肯學, 乜Q都願學,
又如何?!
人老咗就被認為有七料到, 同冇Q用!
唔知啦!
可能有人覺得, 識得Fortran, Cobol, Assembler,
就冇可能識得Java, C#啦!
正如有人覺得, 識整收音機, Hifi就梗唔識 MCU, embedded呢類Digital嘢啦!
又可能有人覺得香港人冇可能hookup to 新舊軟硬啦!

再按: 當然實有人話: 契弟, 你唔識pm, business下化? 20 年前已經做緊project management嘢,
讀過BA, 了解行業包括金融, 物流+倉管, 會計, CMMI, ISO, ITIL, ...(再刪百九幾字)
唔通識如來神掌又周街話人知咩?!

再再按: 我都同客講: Google Map API好能難用, 所以要加二千!

馬後砲 · 發表於 2012-6-25 13:28:42

jayzhou_2046 發表於 2012-6-25 09:57
回復 myGoodies #48 的帖子

可能有人覺得, 識得Fortran, Cobol, Assembler,
就冇可能識得Java, C#啦!
正如有人覺得, 識整收音機, Hifi就梗唔識 MCU, embedded呢類Digital嘢啦!
又可能有人覺得香港人冇可能hookup to 新舊軟硬啦!

好似講緊我咁