對IT界既心聲

馬後砲

raywailo 發表於 2012-6-4 00:42
可我冇學歷冇計..........

我估冇學歴做銷售方面既工作好的。
嗰個部門唔講學歷，只講業績

mindking

大部分香港人做野係睇學歷先 請人升職培訓全部都係
要升到management level? 唔該讀完你個Master先

aloharicnsa

Is it really that bad in HK? I have been in the IT field for the past 20 + years -  currently working/living in Silicon Valley (San Jose/San Francisco, US).

Competition is tough over here in US - most of the programming jobs are outsource to India (cheaper in cost).

Tough tough...  

馬後砲

aloharicnsa 發表於 2012-6-22 06:19
Is it really that bad in HK? I have been in the IT field for the past 20 + years -  currently workin ...

You are right, pretty tough in Hong Kong,
partly due to IT job market in HK being maintenance job.

I see a new field here, whether or not it would further develop into
a blooming industry is yet to see -- game production.

There are a few truly successful games the last couple of years.
Their success of sales also leads to expansion of their hardware department -- the need to use quicker and more powerful servers for their on-line games.

aloharicnsa

Understood – unfortunately unless you are in the Datacenter – 99% of the job can be outsourced (actually, you can also outsource datacenter to third party or co-lo).

Upper management don’t care about people, we are just a piece of meat to them - they just look at ROI or the “bottom-line” – if India is cheaper in labor, why not outsource there so that I (as of management) can have a fatter bonus paycheck?

However, nowadays in US – many companies see that you can NOT outsource everything. The CORE of the business needs to stay within the HQ… you can not put R&D in India (or China) – because those are the bread & butter and where the next innovative product will be, either a new iPad, video games, CPU chips, etc. Certain function can be outsourced but not all.

As of Hong Kong – it is kind of stuck in between (in my humble opinion) – there are certain IT expertise in Hong Kong, but India and China is cheaper and they are no where close to the “nerd-head/rocket scientist” in the Silicon Valley (not stating HK IT is junk, just a general statement – so don’t get mad at me).

假波男

aloharicnsa 發表於 2012-6-23 04:53
Understood – unfortunately unless you are in the Datacenter – 99% of the job can be outsourced (ac ...

看工資，香港的確是介乎大陸印度同美國之間。
但計埋工作効率，香港貴唔過大陸，(印度就唔知)

不過香港有個致命傷 — 地價貴。

aloharicnsa

假波男 發表於 2012-6-23 07:22
看工資，香港的確是介乎大陸印度同美國之間。
但計埋工作効率，香港貴唔過大陸，(印度就唔知)

The cost (or income) IT comparing HK vs. mainland is the same???

No way! I thought HK IT should have a slight lead? No?

galawg

只可以講無奈

80hg

假波男 發表於 2012-6-23 07:22
看工資，香港的確是介乎大陸印度同美國之間。
但計埋工作効率，香港貴唔過大陸，(印度就唔知)

各行各業，都係李＋X奴隸。

馬後砲

80hg 發表於 2012-6-26 18:14
各行各業，都係李＋X奴隸。

其實佢唔系最x嗰個，
不過佢系龍頭大哥，
冇辦法唔搵佢做代表姐。

80hg

馬後砲 發表於 2012-6-26 21:35
其實佢唔系最x嗰個，
不過佢系龍頭大哥，
冇辦法唔搵佢做代表姐。

沒有最X，只有更X。

80hg

馬後砲 發表於 2012-6-26 21:35
其實佢唔系最x嗰個，
不過佢系龍頭大哥，
冇辦法唔搵佢做代表姐。

香港不成文 formula，李＋X = 地產霸權

jayzhou_2046

雖則有啲OT, 不過都講出黎分享下:
話說幾年前, 有客揾小弟翻譯好短既英文文章.
我話最低消費一嚿多啲.
譯完個客話揾咗個內地高手高高手譯.
我問呢位高高手收幾銀呢又.
佢答我話四嚿...人仔!!! (按: 其時一對一左右啦)
我再問介唔介意借份譯本黎睇下, 叫做學下嘢啦.
一睇...把幾三把火! (荔枝都慳番唔駛食!)
香蕉佢個蘋果橙, 小學生咁既程度!!!

依家問題係:
咁究竟香港係因為唔夠人平?
定係唔夠人醒呢?

kingkong_hk

去見工就要沙紙, 去見客就要解決問題

沙紙同解決問題唔係正比

raywailo

kingkong_hk 發表於 2012-6-27 13:17
去見工就要沙紙, 去見客就要解決問題

沙紙同解決問題唔係正比

即係睇外表.....唉

馬後砲

aloharicnsa 發表於 2012-6-24 13:12
The cost (or income) IT comparing HK vs. mainland is the same???

No way! I thought HK IT should  ...

原意系話香港人工高過大陸，
但香港效率高，所以TCO同大陸x唔多

馬後砲

raywailo 發表於 2012-6-28 01:04
即係睇外表.....唉

四台之友搵囡都系睇外表先啦!

馬後砲

jayzhou_2046 發表於 2012-6-27 11:53
雖則有啲OT, 不過都講出黎分享下:
話說幾年前, 有客揾小弟翻譯好短既英文文章.
我話最低消費一嚿多啲.

系名牌問題！

唔介意我都講下翻譯。
有段時間冇野做，我都試過做翻譯。
两個鐘頭既劇集，一路聽一路譯，收左六舊。
另一鑊譯文，約100字收左差唔多三百。

二者分別，劇集自己名接，
譯嗰100字系某教授做唔切判出來。而佢仲有好多執。

jayzhou_2046

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我估係關係囉!
人哋俾內地做,
唔俾香港做,
可能係幫襯嗰間公司,
既老闆既四姨婆, 個八姨丈,
個仔個表妹, 個表孫係識得既!!!

(弊! 好似講緊公司個老闆?!)

myGoodies

好多人唔識判斷好同爛的英文
以為個個翻都一Q樣
平就好
我都有做客串翻釋
但絕不減價
一鬥平就不如唔好做